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2017/2018 John Deere 2025R First Look

Christy and I had the opportunity to get a detailed walk around of the new Deere 2025R at its Introduction today at the Farm Progress Show near Decatur IL.

If you are impatient, and want a quick summary, I would summarize it like this: “A 1025R with larger tires”.

In addition to more detailed discussion in this article, be sure to check out our video from release day here, where John Doyle, Product Marketing Manager for John Deere walks us all the way around the new 2025R, showing us detailed features from one end to the other.

As I stated above, the new 2025R is very similar to the 1025R. In fact, from my perspective it is more similar to a 1-series than its larger framed 2-series siblings. For the last several years, there has not been a smooth ‘upgrade path’ for 1-series owners. The 2-series was outdated, missing most of the creature comforts which we have come to expect out of the John Deere line. 1-series owners wishing to upgrade needed to either sacrifice on things like the auto-connect deck, tilt steering, upgraded seat, etc, or move all the way to the 3-series tractor. This made the upgrade decision difficult.

Deere began resolving this issue one year ago with the introduction of the large frame 2-series tractors. The new 2025R completes this effort, providing Deere engineered comfort and convenience features across all of the sub-compact and compact tractor models.

The video (above) will show a good overview of the 2025R. So, let’s use the rest of this article to show some of the similarities and differences to its larger and smaller siblings.

Things in common with the 1025R

  • Engine – Identical
  • Front End Loader
  • Backhoe
  • Mid Mount Mower Deck
  • Mid Mount Mower Deck Height Control
  • Seat
  • Hood
  • Front Quick Hitch
  • Steering Wheel/Tilt Mechanism
  • Front Axle (including rated capacity)
  • Differential Lock still needs Ken’s Differential Lock Pedal

Differences from the 1025R

  • (Much) Larger Tires – Will result in better ground clearance, and better ride
  • ROPS hinges differenty
  • Tiny Toolbox in front tractor frame.
  • Side Fender Lights Optional (standard on 1025R)
  • Mid Mount Mower appears to lift higher (WooHoo!)
  • PTO (Mid/Rear Select) & HST Range Shift Controls located more conveniently
  • PTO Engage button changed (clothespin will no longer disable RIO)
  • Greater Hydraulic Pump flow (7.0GPM vs. 6.3GPM) However, it appears that this improvement may be dedicated to steering, which would make sense given the larger tires
  • Slightly higher rated Hydraulic pump pressure. Should provide marginally greater lift capacity at FEL and 3 pt hitch
  • Wheelbase (63″ vs. 57″ for 1025R
  • Turning Radius (8.7 ft vs. 7.4 ft)
  • Weight (~350lb heavier)
  • Inline fuel filter no longer under the fender?

Differences from 2032R/2038R

Obviously it is physically smaller, and less horsepower, but there are a few items which might not be as obvious.

  • No Command-Cut Mower Height Control
  • Uses Front Quick Hitch Assembly rather than front 3 point hitch for front blade/blower/broom. (Much less expensive to add a front blade for snow removal)

Should a 1-series owner upgrade?

Of course, no single answer will apply to every situation. However, the upgrade process should be much easier now than before. You’ll gain ground clearance, perhaps a few inches of loader lift height due to larger tires, easier access to some controls, 300 additional pounds, along with opportunity to add even more weight via liquid tire ballast in the larger tires. The higher seating position will improve front end loader visibility. The larger tires should improve the ride. You might see a marginal improvement in hydraulic lift capacity.

You’ll lose some turning radius. Other than that, I can’t see any disadvantages to upgrading.

I think Deere has introduced a VERY interesting product here. One that addresses many of the short-comings of a sub-compact tractor while maintaining a relatively small footprint. This tractor fits very nicely in the overall Deere compact tractor line.

Here is the link to Deere’s 2025R Tractor Page

Would love to hear your thoughts below in the comments section.

Tim Marks
Tim Marks
Compact Tractor Lover. Rural Lifestyle Enthusiast. Tractor Time with Tim on YouTube. Married to Christy for over 31 years. We love showing tractors, attachments, maintenance, storage ideas, and our daily activities around our 10 acre property. We also do some contract tractor work, and significant amount of charity projects.


  1. […] Originally Posted by EBhunts As a current owner of a 2025R it's interesting to see the changes made. One of the things I've read consistently in forums about the current 2025R was that the unit is "underpowered" and not enough of a step up from the 1025R. I've never owned a 1025, and as far as power is concerned, its does everything I've asked the machine to do. Clearly all of this is VERY subjective. I'm not smart enough to know if the "new" 2025R fills the gap between the 1025 and the 2032/2038. But I am pleased to see some of the shortcomings of the current model (seat, step, SCV lever, etc) have been addressed. Ultimately it will be up to the market to decide if Deere made the right changes. I'd LOVE to see a side to side comparison of the 1025R, new 2025R, and the larger 2 Series. Both on paper (specs and prices) as well as on video. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk We covered some of this in our web/blog post: 2017/2018 John Deere 2025R First Look – Tractor Time with Tim […]

  2. […] by Tractor Tim We summarized the differences/similarities we saw as compared to 1025R/203xR here: 2017/2018 2025R First Look Here is a video interview/walk around with John Doyle – Deere Product Marketing Manager. Enjoy! […]

  3. […] Originally Posted by JohnM45 I would be very interested in any list of differences and upgrades the new 2025R offers over the 1025R. How are they marketing this? What capabilities will it have over the 1025R? In case you missed it on the other thread: 2017/2018 John Deere 2025R First Look – Tractor Time with Tim […]

  4. Tim ; You need a 2038R With everything you do with you 1025 you would love the 2038. I just traded my 1025 . Talk to you CEO . Good Luck Buzz

  5. Tim I have a 1025 TLB and if I run it around the yard doing projects and I don’t put the travel pins in on my backhoe the hydrolics bleed down and the bucket will drag on the ground is this normal

  6. I think you should not settle for a small upgrade, if your gonna do it, go with the 3R series with a cab. Note: When purchasing, have the tires facing outward. The 3R with tires inward makes it top heavy.

    • Would definitely be nice to have more HP and lift capacity.
      We’ll see how things unfold.

      My dad has a 3-series with cab for a lawn mower. He loves it. It has Ag tires, set in close, so, yes, very tipsy.

      We would probably opt for open station given our video requirements. Much easier to interact with the camera in open station situation.

  7. Liked the review. I have the 1025R and it is a nice machine. The mid mount mower is the week spot in my opinion. Doesn’t lift high enough and is really limited in height settings. Most of us don’t have perfectly smooth manicured lawns.

    Plus the deck doesn’t float very well. probably because of the disconnect mechanism. My older 425 AWS with a 54 inch deck will mow circles around the 1025R 60D. Sounds like maybe the 2025R has some improvements in the deck? The bigger tires would also be nice.

  8. I have a 1025R which I am trading in on a new 2038R with the 72″ deck, radial turf tires and a 59″ snow blower. I do a lot of mowing during the season, with approximately 8-9 acres at home and 35-40 acres at my church (we have 134 acres). In the winter I take care of the county road (3/4 miles) and all my neighbors who have paved drives. Last June (2016) I installed a Curtis premium cab on the 1025R and it was great during our one snow storm this past winter(2017) when I spent 11 hours blowing snow trying to keep everything clean. Heater and the hot air from the engine kept me warm and in shirtsleeves. However in the summer, with the windshield open and booth door (quite heavy) and the rear panel off it was quite warm inside plus noisy (you have to wear hearing protection). My main concern with the cab is visibility. You can’t see the front wheels in relation to the mower and this leave me with less a full width of cut. Also,some of the grass that I cut at church lies in a very wet area so that it isn’t cut at least once a week or sooner, it grows rapidly and will almost stall the tractor. The 1025R just doesn’t have enough umph to do the job. Also my height control will not stay where I stay where I set it making it even worse to do a good job.

      • Thank you Tim one oft the fields behind our Cemetary is fairly flat and I would like to get our youth group to help with plainting potatoes on about 1 acre for our food pantry at church. I don’t have a tiller but I do have a sub soiler and a set of bushhog disc so all I will need is a middle buster. I was by the dealer this morning and told me that the 2038R had a shipping number , just waiting for the release date.

        I love watching your videos and am amazed at what you do with it. Wish I could afford the back hoe

  9. If I were purchasing my first little tractor, with the benefit of the hindsight I have gained running my 1025R for 3 years, I would pick the new 2025R for two reasons. 1) The independent (and higher) mower lift. I need to drive across small streams and would love the ability to raise the mower a bit higher. 2) The more robust front quick hitch solution. However, the advantages are not enough to compel me to upgrade at this time.

    • Tim, you should really look at the new 2032 or 2038R Tractors. When it comes to working the 2038R will really get the job done. I know because I just took delivery on October 16th of my new 2038R. It is quieter than the 1025R, has more get up and go and the E throttle is simply great. I have the 72D deck with the mulching kit and have mowed through thick grass that would stall my 1025. The command cut lift system makes changing the deck height as simple as turning a knob to the height you want and the lift system does it every time.

    • Sounds good, Tweeze. I’m not sure that the quick hitch solution is any different from the 1025R. Also, I agree that it is not a major upgrade. If you are happy with your 1025r, there is no reason to ‘wish’ for the 2025r.

  10. Tim, do you have any info on the stop sale that is currently on the new 2025R? Mine has been sitting at my dealers for over a month now, and they can’t deliver it until the fix is announced.

  11. My dealer told me it is a transmission problem with the 2025R, but is a ROPS bolts issues with the 1025R.

    Waiting patiently for whatever the issue is for the supply of 2025’s to start back up.

  12. I’m interested in the track width difference between 1025r and 2025r length isn’t an issue for me but width is. I can’t seem to locate the difference on JD’s site. And no local dealer has one to compare.

  13. My dealer was scheduled to get the 2018 2025r back in November and then they were told December 7th. I was told that now it has been moved back to January 25th. Apparently there is an issue with the transmission is what I was told as well.

    • That is what is delaying my purchase, but I can’t find anything on any website confirming the transmission problems. My dealer did have access to one but needed to be repaired before they would release it. Judging by the length of time needed for this recall, I can only assuming that it is some sort of internal component needing repair, or a complete rework of the transmission itself and not simply a bolt on repair on the outside of the transmission. I’m told supply to my dealer in Canada will start to trickle in in mid to end of January with factory orders.

      Until then, I have dusted off the shovels to ready myself for this weeks upcoming snow event. 🙂

  14. Just got back from the dealer to talk more about the 2032r because I want to purchase before years end and I already knew that the 2025r, that I was really interested in, was already pushed out until January 25th from December 7th. The new 2025r for 2018 has now been pushed out to March 25th according to his email from John Deere. I guess it’s just as well. For some unknown reason, they decided to make the 3pt hitch a Limited Category 1 on this new design whereas it was a full Cat 1 on the 2017 and prior years model. That’s enough for me to not want it anyway as it would limit the attachments that I can use from my Father-in-law.
    I guess it’s a sign to go bigger, lol.

    • I suspect if you are considering the 2032r that you should go with it. The new 2025R is much smaller than the prior 2025R. I think the 2025R is best suited for someone who thinks the 1025R is great, but would like a little bit better ride, and a bit more ground clearance. If you want “larger” for any other reasons, then moving on up to the 2032R would seem wise.

  15. And that is indeed what I ended up going with, Tim! On Saturday I went and traded in my 2015 x590 for the 2032r, 220r loader, 60″ auto deck, Artillian 3rd Function Diverter kit and the 50″ CTAttachments JD extreme grapple. I know, I jumped right over the 1025r and the 2025r but it’s an investment for the future and the fact that the 2032r has the full Cat1 hitch is what swayed me. I took a unit off the floor so hoping to get it this week or next. I also ordered two Edge Tamers and a Trash Tamer but that’s a three week wait I was told. I will be using your Diverter valve video to help with install and I would have never have known about Edge Tamers without your website so thank you.

    • Congratulations! Sounds like an excellent rig! I think you’ll be more pleased with the 2032r than the 2025r for your needs.

  16. Hi Tim and family. I currently have a 2305 and am thinking of upgrading. I was thinking of the 1025R until I saw your video on the 2025R. I would like your opinion on a few questions: Does the 2025R feel much bigger than the 1025R when sitting in the seat. Side by side I wonder how much bigger it really is. All things being equal, which one would you buy? Also, does the tire pattern on your tractor abuse your lawn much when mowing? I would prefer the ag tires over turf tires on my new machine if they are easy on the grass. Thanks in advance for your thoughts. I’ve enjoyed watching your videos and getting to “know” your family.

    • Yes, it feels a bit taller. It would ride easier.

      However, other than that, it is a 1025R.

      Tire pattern does not cause issue as long as in 2wd.

      The only time I hear folks prefer turf tires is in snow traction. Folks say you get better traction on the snow with turf tires. I always do fine with snow, but others seem to have difficulty with traction.

    • You definitely don’t want egg tires one mowing get the turf tires they’re easier on the grass and your turf

  17. What Tim has is the industrial tires. I hear from professionals in my area that they actually do less harm than turf tires and tremendously less damage than the sharp edged ag tires. The industrial tires also last much longer than the turf tires.

  18. Think that will be a point of discussion with my dealer: tires. I’m in no rush to purchase so I’ll wait until this model arrives at dealers. I’m really thinking this could be my next unit for mowing and snow removal. Love the idea of the drive over deck. Sort of tired of crawling under mine to connect the PTO and bolting up the lift arms to the deck. 2305 has been a great tractor for me, though.

  19. Just purchased the 2025r from my dealer. I originally ordered a 1025r but the other day he had two 2025r tractors come in. I drove one around and instantly knew I wanted it instead. I cancelled the order for the 1025r and bought the 2025r with a 60D deck, 120r loader, and the new 260b backhoe. Just waiting for the backhoe to come in so they can install it and then I get to take it home!

    • For those wondering about the size comparison, we parked a 2025r and a 1025r side by side at the dealership. The seat and fenders sit between 10 and 12 inches higher than the 1025r. It has a slightly longer wheelbase, maybe 6 inches or so. The ride was definitely better and it seemed a bit faster which I assume comes from the much larger tires. The visibility from an operators standpoint is better, largely because you sit higher. The dealer also had a 2025r with the new R3 tires, although I still opted for the R4’s. The 3 point hitch visibly looks a bit larger and lifts a bit higher. I did not get any formal dimensions, but there was a visible difference. The ground clearance is far more than the 1025r, both due to the larger tires, and the fact that the axles are lower on the frame to accommodate those tires. Beyond that, looking around the operators station, it is almost identical to the 1025r as far as control placement is concerned. The only real difference I noticed is that the range shift lever and the PTO lever are now housed within a plastic guide similar to the one that houses the 3 point hitch control, whereas on the 1025r they are out in the open. Both the 1025r and the 2025r for the 2018 model year now have a ROPS that is angled forward at the pivot point. This is to allow greater headroom when using the new 260B backhoe. I can’t wait to take it home with me which should be in mid February once the backhoe arrives from the factory. I asked about any known re-calls as some of you have mentioned above and the dealer looked up the serial number on the John Deere computer system. There are no outstanding re-calls or service bulletins on this particular tractor. It is possible that the early builds were affected but all new deliveries from the factory are cleared to sell.

  20. Tim, I am looking at purchasing a 2018 1025R this April I would really like to know how these things do on slopes such as side hill. more so when your mowing.. I am not signed into youtube so I cant post comments there. any way we could chat sometime? would love to get your thoughts and experience.

    • my recommendation is to make sure that your roll bar is up and tight and make sure your seat belt is on tight. my old 1025R was okay on one steep slope that I mowed on my property but the best recommendation is to go up and down the hill if at all possible. If you are used to a garden tractor on slop[es, you will find a whole new experience on the 1025R because you will be sitting a whole lot higher. I now have a 2038R and I sit even higher.

      • I am mostly concerned with small banks around my house and my neighbors. No ditches or bad areas to worry about causing extra problems. They arent real steep but they make you want to kinda sit on one side of the seat on my current husqy lgt2654. I have not seen any videos at all with the 1025 mowing at any off angles.. made me really wonder.

  21. So, the 2025R, that I put a deposit on back in October was finally delivered about a month ago. The problem was the brake actuator plate within the transmission, which had to be redesigned, then replaced. Between my wife and I , we have about six hours on the machine now, with the 54” snowblower on it, although I did have the loader on it for a bit yesterday. So far I am glad I waited, love the machine, but am waiting for the snow to go away and the yard to dry up a little but, so I can really get out and “test” it.

  22. Hello Tim. I am looking to get the 2032r. Not so sure it’s a need thing as much as a want thing. I live in northern Michigan, it is so beautiful here. Please come visit us!

    My reason for getting a tractor is mainly for snow removal purposes. However over time I’d look to expand my options. I’ve done much snow removal in the past but have very little experience with dirt.

    My question is as far as reliably of snow equipment. Do you believe the tractor option is more reliable then a snow plow truck? I also have other questions that I’m not sure are suitable unless by email. Such as how to bid jobs.

    Thank you for your time, I can’t get enough of your videos.

    • I wouldn’t be able to compare a reliability question like that.
      I would encourage you to get the loader with your initial purchase.

  23. So my question is this. If the 2025r is so similar to the 1025r, can the 1025r tires be switched out to larger ones like on the 2025r. Or better yet, could one possible convert his 1025r into a 2025r ?

    • I thought I discussed the lengthened wheelbase, the changes to operators station, etc to accommodate the larger tires…

      • You probably did in your video; I must have missed it. Love all your videos by the way. You and your fam are a pleasure to watch ! I also called a couple dealers and it looks like I’m stuck with the current size because of the fender height. Although it might be possible to get wider tires. Ultimately I’d like to make my 1025tlb a little less tipsy feel without having to upgrade to a 2 series. I keep the backhoe on and my rears are filled with beet juice but maybe wheel weights would help as well ?

  24. I already own a 3320. A fine machine with 2200 hard hours on it. I bought this unit to handle the manure in the barns since I need to get the flail mower onto the 3320. This thing theoretically should handle a timberwolf log splitter, another job around here processing nine cords a season and the scale suits it.
    So far I’m apprehensive. It’s a lot smaller, smaller parts smaller tooling smaller you name it. If it only has to do the horses, I’m OK. The 3320 can lift with forks up to over 7 feet, This, no. It just doesn’t feel as solid as the bigger machine, which I absolutely love. If my attitude changes, I’ll sure write back.

  25. Just brought home a new 2018 or 2019 2025r…seems much noisier than I would have expected…have you or anyone noticed excessive noise and smoking on startup?
    Also noticed that the 4wd indicator light is not there…should this be there on the new 2025r….this MAYBE a 2019 model based on the product identification code..

    Enjoy your videos!

    • Make sure you allow the glow plugs time to heat the cylinders before starting.
      Yes, they smoke when cold, and yes they are loud.
      There is no 4WD indicator on my 2014 model Tractor.

  26. Tim, I just went to JD dealer and looks like I’ll get the 2025 R tractor. I have 36 acres on my farm and Mow 3 acres ( grass ). I will use this tractor for snow removal . I will also put the loader and bucket to great use. Do you think I would be better off with the 2032 R as it’s got the extra power?

  27. I am purchasing the 2019 2025r with the factory cab. I currently own a JD 3320, which I have had since 2007 when I purchased it new. I no longer am doing lot clearing etc. Just snow removal on a very long driveway and mowing my 4 acres of land. For the steep hill, I have a zero turn which does the mowing on this hill nicely. I’m looking forward to attaching the mid deck on the 2025r easily and also the snow blower and sweeper. Anything I should be aware of before I take the final leap and sign the papers?

    • Hmm. Are you sure you want to go all the way down to the 2025r? I’m afraid you may be disappointed after having the 3320. A 2032r would likely be more comfortable for you.

      • Thought about the 2032r but it does not have the quick connects for the snow blower sweeper nor quick connect mower deck. Plus no factory cab plus now I’m into the diesel emission controls. My 3320 is pre emission control. The 3320nhas been a good machine but I don’t need something that big. Is there a reason why you are backing off of the 2025R? It is under powered?

        • There is a front mounted snow blower for the 2032r. It uses a front 3 point hitch.
          Probably more expensive.
          I just don’t think you will find the 2025r to be enough tractor. It is essentially identical to 1025r. Do you think 1025r is enough tractor? If so, then the 2025r will be fine. Just don’t consider the 2025r as ‘stronger’ than the 1025r.

  28. Would the 2025R be appropriate to run a wood chipper? Most chippers that I am looking at call for a minimum PTO HP of 25 (vs 18 on the 2025R), but I don’t expect to use the chipper at maximum log/pole/branch sizes.

  29. Tim I have a new 2019 2025r with R 3 radial tires and a Curtis cab. So far so good the reason I moved up to the 2025r was for the ground clearance. I enjoy watching your videos a lot especially the one where you are brush hogging a field. I have a question for you which I hope you can answer for me. When I am brush hogging the tall weeds wrap around the 4wheel driveshaft and I have to stop and clean it off. John Deere’s web page for the new 2025r says it has an anti-wrapping guard for the 4wheel driveshaft. Do you have any idea what this is, and would it solve the problem I have? If so I would like to purchase one for my 2025r. Thanks Pete

  30. Tim,
    Could you please update your thoughts on this page… now that you actually used a 2025R to clear out your old garage because your 1025 couldn’t do the job…I think the words you use here that it’s only a 1025 with bigger wheels is really quite misleading for folks trying to figure out which tractor to buy.

    • A couple of things. First, we didn’t use the 2025r because the 1025r wasn’t big enough to do the job. Hope we didn’t say that. Rather, we used the 2025r at the pickup location, and the 1025r at the unload location. …so that we didn’t have to haul the tractor back and forth. Very thankful for Matt bringing his tractor for us to try.

      I DO still believe the 2025r is simply a 1025r with larger tires. The only changes I can see in the machine are directly related to the larger tires.
      There is a small boost in hydraulic PSI so that they can claim a bit more lift capacity. …but one could easily make that change to their 1025r.

      I personally do not have plans to acquire a 2025r. Doesn’t make sense to me.

      Blunt, I guess…but you asked 🙂

  31. Hey Tim, do you have a recommendation (or have you) for how to build a stowage bracket for a 2025R backhoe to make it easy to stow, install and remove? ideally on wheels so it could be wheeled around in a shop.

  32. I now own a 2020, 2025r with af10 plow, I went from a 1025r, this thing is a beast my first test was a foot of snow turf tires now chains all on paved surface plowed for 6 hrs this thing is definitely not a 1 series tractor it has the comforts but like the service guy at my dealership said , its a different tractor I am impressed

  33. I am trying to decide to go with the R4 tires or the R3 radials on the 2025R. My trusty ol’ 2305 had the R4’s and never had a problem, except for the harsh ride and leaving marks in the soil/grass. Besides mowing several acres and a 1/4 of roadside, I cut wood, use the loader to move brush, grade the drive and move snow. That’s about the extent of my plans for the new 2025R. What feedback can you supply that will help me decide? BTW, I have been through back surgery and am looking for a less harsh ride. Thanks in advance for your input!


  34. I would like to know if the gearing is the same on 2025r as 1025r considering the larger tires. I mow a steep hill up and down currently with a BX 2370 in high gear. I wouldn’t want to mow in low because of increase in mowing time with mowing 4 acres. I’m considering a 2025r or 1025r because I would like to have increased FEL lift capacity plus drive over deck.

  35. I’m looking to buy either a 1025R or a 2025R. I very briefly considered the 2032R but it costs $6,400 more than the 2025R and I can’t justify spending that much more. The price difference between the 1025R and 2025R is $2500 which makes both models in my price range. A big concern to me is ground clearance. I live in New England and where I plan to occasionally use the tractor has more exposed rocks than soil, especially on the eroded farm roads laid out in the 1700’s. I get a kick out Tim using his tractors and seemingly never encountering rocks above the ground. Not many places like that around here.

    Ground clearance figures seem to be hard to find, and when I found them they turned out to be quite different than my measurements. I went to a dealer and measured both 1025R and 2025R axle ground clearance. Both machines did not have a backhoe and were parked on grass. On the 1025R the lowest point of the front axle was 10″ above the ground, but the rear axle low point was only 7″ above ground. On the 2025R the lowest point of the front and rear axle was 10″ above ground.

    As an aside I picked up the 1 series and 2 series JD brochures because they sometimes have info not found on the JD website. Oddly the inside cover of the 2 series brochure (printed in Sept 2019) pictures the 1025R. Ooops.

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